Fogliata is wrong: The sovereignty of the Venetian people is legal, And we have it.

From the pages of the Gazzettino 19 The Fogliata lawyer, good knowledge of Venetian history, and former defender of the Serenissimi, Polemizza with the former prosecutor Ennio Fortuna.

Fortuna Fortuna Fortuna when he would have supported the intangibility of the Constitution at the point that provides for the indivisibility of the Republic, and critical and also that the region can not even submit to a referendum the question of independence.

I point out that this point on the impossibility of the region of indirect a referendum had never been publicly raised until I did it on the day 13 September 2009, on the service screens Veneta. In the region they have seen fit to postpone discussion, and I will not come back I think. And this is a fact now also known to many regional councilors and mayors. MA

Leaflet claims that art.5 of the Constitution also, on the indivisibility of the Republic, it is not eternal and superhuman, and that question of “people Venetian” It is not a legal or legal question, but policy.

In particular Fogliata invokes the right of self-determination, that would climb the same constitution allowing the independence of Veneto.

Therefore leafy concludes that the independence of the Venetian people will continue to speak, hinting of being in favor.

Unfortunately, however, leafy did not affect the makeshift legal discourse, although there is a legal error in Fontana speech.

Fontana unfortunately has the region when he says that the Region cannot indirect an advisory referendum for independence: Not only is it prohibited by the regional statute to art.27, but in 2007 The Constitutional Court ruled that a region, It is only a peripheral body of the state, cannot legally represent a people. Who thought in a region as a state, He made a mistake .

Unfortunately, those who think of the region as a possible future state, not only he does not know the constitutional right, but neither the international.

The right of self-determination, It is called this because in fact it does not apply to the regions, but for the people.

Identify the residents in the Veneto region (Al 30% non Veneto) With the “people Venetian” , and also excluding the Venetian residents in the Friuli Venezia-Giulia and (who they have always been and speak Venetian Venetian) It is a legal error , done since the Resolution 42/1998, as in resolution 44/2012, both the referendum proposal. E’ a legal error because the people and not the region can very well climb over the Constitution, but all the people, Its not a limited set. For me it is also an unacceptable historical and political error, because it denies the historical identity and the current dimension of the Venetian people.

The Constitution is in fact exceeded by the right of self -determination of peoples, but this applies to the peoples, not for regional authorities.

Floga also seems to not be aware of the fact that the Venetian people are also recognized by constitutional law, And therefore the question of independence and sovereignty of the Venetian people is not only politics, but not only legal.

The question is legal when it is recognized that the Venetian people exist in the territory from Bergamo to Udine, and that is not represented by a region.
E’ legal when it is recognized that the Venetian people have the legal right to self-government and self-determination in international law, and can practice it.
E’ legal question already examined also by the judiciary, so that when the 1999 We have created the autogoverno of the Venetian people, exercising these rights as provided by law, After the complaints, the archive was reached (no offense).

E’ even more legal if it is recognized that the Venetian people have been an illegally annexed in 1866, Why, as I have shown, The Italian soldiers and the Venetians voted were in an armed state before the vote. Which invalidates the plebiscite of annexation. Who recognizes legality to Italy, denies these facts.

E’ legal even more from 2013, because the Italian state in 2010 He has canceled the annexation laws 1866, and from 2013 they are no longer restored.

The question is so legal that the Court of Venice in the 2008 could not assert jurisdiction over the Lombardo-Veneto area, Because Lombardy-Veneto and Friuli Venezia Giulia was in 1866 and are now one and the same sovereign state invaded by the Piedmont-Italy.

I am disappointed by the response of Fogliata because it shows that it does not know the right of sovereignty of the Venetian people, established by art.2 L.N.340/1971 and L.N. 881/1977, nor the history of illegal Italian invasion.

Saying that the question is political and non -legal, In practice, leafy denies sovereignty and recognition to the Venetian people, but also to all the Lombardo-Veneto.

And it is contradictory, because if there is not “people” legally recognized (and then in the international sense), Then there is no right to the referendum, nor right to climb the Constitution.

If the legitimacy of having independence is missing, then also the referendum path proposed by the movements is illegal-impossible.

Leafy therefore disavowed the whole plant even of an alleged independence through referendum, eventually to agree with Fortuna.

I say instead that the calling of the consultative referendum for independence is illegal both for the regional statute, But also because all the whole of the whole of the whole people would not be called up, just part, perhaps less than 50%, excluding the Venezia-Giulia and Venezia-Lombarda.

Unfortunately, these statements are not possible for the leaf lawyer, because as a lawyer he sworn loyalty to Italian national interests.

We instead of the self -government of the Venetian people (www.statoveneto.net), We argue that the Italian state has no sovereignty in the Lombardy-Veneto territory, and that independence will come with the international cause we are preparing.
And even the Court of Venice in 2008 it could not say that there is sovereignty of Italy on Lombardo-Veneto.

It was no coincidence that the legally annexation was subsequently canceled.

We are organizing the international cause, But it costs a lot, because it takes place in the Court of States, and there must go a Provisional Government of Lombardy and Veneto in compliance with international law, which it must be based on clear legal foundations.

Upon the deposit of the cause, it will only take 6 months for the answer. Unfortunately, we will deposit the cause when we have found the 1000 between Venetians, Lombardi, Mantovani and Friuli, ready to pick, among friends and relatives, 1000 euro each to pay international lawyers, Forcibly not Italian for the discourse of the oath of loyalty.

are many 1 million euro, but they are approximately 15 minutes of taxes now extorted from Italy, and only a tenth of the cost of the referendum.

return sovereigns, but I regret now see that even known of Venetian history lovers will not recognize the Venetian people legal rights, and the right to a legally established path. And this is a question of very high political value.

We can already affirm full sovereignty today even if we are busy, And there is nothing that for a Veneto has more educational value, cultural, legal and political. And I don't ask myself to lie recognizing sovereignty to Italy, demanding a referendum.

We must profess our sovereignty, But we must also be aware that we are all forced to have a lot of attention and fear when we see the Italian law enforcement agencies. Needless to provoke and stupid.

adding 28 October. foliate, saying that the Venetian people have no legal sovereignty, It is giving the idiot to the whole regional council of Veneto and in 2012, like in 1998, It approved of “resolutions” where it is stated that the Venetian people are legally recognized and sovereign, however united to Italy.