Le foibe si fecero perché volevano la Repubblica Jugoslava nel Nord Italia, the genocide of the Venetians and the bale of resistance and liberation
They are a well-known anti-fascist and a known Anticomunista.
Ho già scritto sui crimes of the fascists in Istria and Dalmatia . Today I talk about communist crimes, For more già ampiamente condannati .
BORN “the newspaper” del 1° settembre 1996, Paul Granzotto takes us back to the proclamation, of the “Comrade Vanni” , that in 1945 It was political commissar of the partisan division “Garibaldi” . These were the famous partisans, Italians and communists. He said:
“ Comrades! Tutti i partigiani italiani operanti nell’Italia nord orientale debbono porsi disciplinatamente alle dipendenza delle unità del maresciallo Tito. They are enemies of the people, those who do not intend to support the accession to the progressive movement Federative Yugoslavia and Tito. I territori della Venezia Giulia sono legittimamente sloveni e sugli stessi perciò il maresciallo Tito ha pieno diritto di giurisdizione”
in conclusion, the Italian Communists were liberating Venezia Giulia, but they were annexing to Tito's Yugoslavia. E’ well evidenced that they declared Slovenes all of North Eastern Italy.
As thousands were known dead infoibati ordered by Tito, who, despite being a monarchist funded by freemasonries, realizzò il comunismo in Jugoslavia. Among the dead even non-Italian communist partisans, ie liberal, monarchists, republican, popular etc. .
Text excerpt from the book
From this document, and many others, ci si rende conto che parlare di Resistenza o di Liberazione è una finzione, perché fu in realtà una tentata annessione al Regime Comunista che fallì sebbene per circa 2 months Tito had the control of Trieste and Friuli. For the same reason Istria, Dalmatia and most of Venezia Giulia did not vote in the referendum on 1946, making it incomplete and legally void as I have shown in my book. Indeed, those lands were Italy, how can it be valid the victory of “republic” if Istria and Dalmatia did not vote in the Referendum? 
Unfortunately, that part of Venetia ( at the time called Venezia Giulia and Zara) andò persa, with the unlawful supply of Istria and Dalmatia authorized by De Gasperi (He also funded by some freemasonries). But how could the “republic” cede a territory that has never voted for it ? Today we should incarcerate those who celebrates “liberation” in quanto è come un “inciting communist revolution”, che si realizzò nelle terre di Istria e Dalmatia. Non tanto paradossalmente si è così realizzato il disegno che i partiti comunisti avevano intrapreso già negli anni 20 in various conferences: detach from the Venetian people a key part of its original land. In fact Istria and Dalmatia are like Kosovo for Serbs, ie native land, and in fact it was always lands Venetian, but also Venetian well before Vicenza, Padova, Verona etc.: lì ciò che è storico è tutto è veneto nella maniera più intima.
curiously, today panveneta theory confirms that those were always Venetian lands. Rather, it is said that the Slovenes are Venetians, confirming the contrary what the Communists said Titina.
But no, oggi l’Italia dichiara a gran voce l’Italianità delle Terre del “Northeast”, e i più contrari alla sua indipendenza sono proprio gli stessi comunisti che 50 anni fa la volevano perché terra slovena. Sono proprio i comunisti come il presidente Napolitano che oggi riempiono i discorsi di italianità fasulla ad affermare il contrario di quello che loro stessi o i loro padri predicavano e attuavano con il mitra. But let us also remember that Napolitano was in favor of the military occupation of Hungary by the Soviet Union.
E’ enough to remember that only 40 years before the failed communist German annexation of the Austrians claimed the same land of Lombardy and Veneto to understand how the wind turns. Ed è sufficiente sapere che il Lombardo Veneto è diventato italiano perché l’Italia tradì i patti con la Prussia per capire che si tratta solo di demagogia, violating the international treaty and making its soldiers vote for annexation, Also this my discovery.
Those communists are still in power ganglia, especially in Italy, although communism was condemned by the Council of Europe.
Ma c’è un filo conduttore in tutto ciò: è la Stella a 5 Masonic or Pentalfa tips. Contrassegnava la «Rivoluzione bolscevica», compariva sullo stemma delle «Brigate Rosse», dell’’ex PCI e su quello dell’’ex PDS. Not counting the ex-communist states that still have it like China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, essa però campeggia già da prima del comunismo sulla bandiera degli USA, and that of Algeria, Tunisian, Morocco, Somalia, così come sulla bandiera di molti altri. E’ from the 1871 which symbolizes Italy, First on military uniforms, per volontà dell’allora Ministro della Guerra, Cesare Ricotti-Magnai, known Freemason, oggi è sullo stemma della Repubblica italiana .
The Venetians during the Republic of Venice were against Freemasonry, erano vietate come lo erano i partiti politici perché “part” therefore divisive with respect to the public and general interest. So you understand that just the Venetians were the ones who suffered the most damage from “liberation struggle” of “partisans” (who were communist revolutionaries), and thus do not find anything strange that the party of liberation (failed annexation) will celebrate the very day of St. Mark, millennial celebration of the Venetians.
Speak about “Resistance” è falso e demagogico, è una inversione della realtà a fini propagandistici in vero stile “imperialist”. Of course, It was not a struggle for liberation, but the Communist occupation. In my book “The Republic unborn” I am also talking about the Togliatti proclamation for annexation to Yugoslavia.
Questa mia prospettiva Antifascista e Anticomunista è molto diffusa nella Venetia, e non è così forte in altri teritori a noi molto vicini. Non ci posso fare niente se sono Veneto e dunque amo e coltivo la libertà sincera e la giustizia onesta. We Venetian been doing it for millennia, I partly are the product.
Per saperne di più:
Partisan History and the Foibe
http://www.politicaonline.net/forum/showthread.php?t=146645
Taken from the Dead “partner” Vanni
E’ Vanni died Padoan, He apologized for Porzus- (03 January 2008)
CORMÒNS. Un pezzo di storia se ne è andato con la scomparsa di Giovanni Padoan, dead 98 anni nella sua casa di Cormòns. Known by the nom de guerre of Vanni, political commissar of the Garibaldi-Natisone Division, è stato protagonista nel 2001 the historic reconciliation between the communist partisans and Osoppians for each Porzus, Friuli's hut where the 1945 twenty green partisans of the Osoppo was killed by the communists led by Mario gappisti Toffanin. L’ultimo saluto a quello che è stato uno dei protagonisti della lotta di Liberazione sarà dato domani, in a civil ceremony that will take place, ALL 14.30, in the town hall of the hill town. Nato a Cormòns il 25 June 1909, Vanni Padoan emigrò insieme alla famiglia in Francia nel 1924, dove lavorò come carpentiere. Back in Italy, in 1935, He was sentenced to 16 anni di carcere perché comunista. After the armistice of 1943 che segnò la fine del conflitto con gli angolo-americani e l’invasione dell’Italia da parte dell’esercito tedesco, organizzò la resistenza sul Collio, in qualità di commissario politico della più grossa formazione partigiana italiana, Garibaldi-Natisone Division, che combattè anche in Jugoslavia nel 1945 Body net 9, the army led by Marshal Tito who had sights on Gorizia, Trieste and also the Friuli. Nel dopoguerra fu processato e condannato per l’eccidio di Porzûs, ma non andò in carcere perché riparò prima in Cecoslovacchia e poi in Romania: qui lavorò come redattore di trasmissioni radiofoniche. amnestied, Padoan was marginalized by the Communist Party, perché considerato «poco malleabile e diplomatico». in 2001, all’età di 92 years, Padoan has made admission of guilt, abbracciando in un gesto che è diventato storico l’ottantottenne don Redento Bello, say “Candido”, spiritual father of Osoppians. After half a century, I two met in Attimis, in front of the mausoleum that recalls the massacre: Vanni Padoan, without hiding the commotion, si è scusato con gli eredi delle vittime «di un crimine di guerra che esclude ogni possibilità di giustificazione». The Cormons continued its admission acknowledging that would have to occur before. «Benché il mandante di tale eccidio sia stato il Comando sloveno del IX Corpus, the performers were gappisti employees militarily by the PCI federation of Udine, whose executives made themselves accomplices of the crime barbaric. Since the Gap were Garibaldi partisan, as Communist leader of the time and the last living member of the Garibaldi-Friuli divisions grouping command, assumo la responsabilità oggettiva a nome mio personale e di tutti coloro che concordano con questa posizione e chiedo formalmente scusa e perdono agli eredi delle vittime del barbaro eccidio. This declaration should have been made by the Garibaldi-Friuli divisions grouping command when the Lucca trial was underway. Unfortunately, la situazione politica da guerra fredda non lo rese possibile». will, moreover, added that, in recent years, Giovanni Padoan took part in numerous meetings, seminari e convegni imperniati sulla storia che sancì la fine del secondo conflitto mondiale e che, in these lands, it was characterized by moments of particular cruelty. Contribuì al dibattitto sulla riappacificazione con tesi e argomenti frutto della propria esperienza. The reconciliation is still discussing, dal momento che non è stata completamente accolta dai vertici dell’Apo, the Osoppo Partisans Association. Vanni Padoan wrote several books and articles, in which he recounted his experience. «È una scomparsa che lascia un grande vuoto. Non se ne è andato solo un protagonista della guerra di Liberazione, ma anche una persona saggia ed equilibrata», commented granddaughter Vanni Padoan, Eva, che abitava con lui in via Filanda a Cormòns. He added: «Sto ripetendo a tutti che non mi ha lasciato un’eredità materiale, ma qualcosa che nessuno mi potrà mai togliere: una grande saggezza». In addition to his niece, He leaves his wife Sima, daughter Nives, Raul's grandson and great-grandson Michele.
paola
22 September 2009 @ 10:05
I think you've stuffed your arguments about many things, also very demagogic, like those who blame the Jews for all the ills of the world and the fault here is an alleged Masonic design, etc.. etc.
Surely you are angry with the Communists who have certainly made some big mistakes, sharing the reasons for the communist ideology of social union without having the tools to fully understand what this ideology could bring.
But do not come to tell me that all the partisans were in a preordained pattern, not come to say that the resistance is a farce. My grandparents and my family were victims of a fascist regime lasted 20 years where all freedoms were gradually eliminated.
The reasons for a liberation struggle were all there and many young and very young people fought and died for ideals that you too cannot deny.
loris
22 September 2009 @ 13:48
If you read carefully I'm not talking about ALL endurance, but the alleged resistance to the north of the Po, which in reality had the aim of carrying out an annexationist coup d'état with Yugoslavia. We have all the evidence you want these.
And in any case, without taking anything away from your family events, the fact that fascism has made some very serious persecution, of which only now are we beginning to talk about crimes against humanity in Greece, Slovenia, Montenegro, Albania etc., It does not mean that the communist resistance was better in intent, and where they managed to do what they wanted to have involving the same way, as for example in Istria and Dalmatia.
I therefore think that to generalize a bit’ too as “blame the Jews for all the ills” Just You Instead. Read carefully also other related pages.
Neretva
18 April 2009 @ 12:25
Tito monarchy… AHAHAH UUUUHH UH uhhhhhh, and maybe Hitler was negro! them them ihhhh, I write this to myself and reread it every night before going to sleep so I do myself 4 laughs! BUAAHAHAHH
giancarlo - Verona
24 February 2009 @ 16:41
A real nation can not survive on lies and a false story.
When the Venetians all know their history, the real one… there will be no loopholes whatsoever for itaglioti.
Those of us left then God forbid. False,liars,turncoat,mystifying truth and reality ,people who drank the brain of ideologies and false ideals based on the death of millions of people fossanche they were their own countrymen or relatives or friends.
When Italian politicians starting with their presidents of the republic will have the courage to admit the garbage of their predecessors, fossanchero the so-called fathers of Homeland. A country born not with blood stains, but even with clothes soaked in blood he will not be able to continue to exist forever.
The good Lord knows everything and everything will remedy sooner or later because those who are stained with Venetian blood,Istrian,Dalmatian and Friuli avrnno the condemnation they deserve…in particular that historical. They call us revisionists…..to prevent the truth from coming out and instead they are already paying tribute to God for their misdeeds.
The left, even extremist, is out of parliament and the PD is already collapsing and you can already hear the rattles of a stinking dead.
Yugoslavia know what happened even in recent times.
There is really something to think about. About hand hurts sword perishes !!!
I remain then more surprised at how itaglioti are ignorant when it comes to history.
On the other hand I remember that when I went to school the story we studied was that “official” and not the real one. A state that tells its citizens bales…to be good…. does not deserve to exist more.
Now with the book of Mark Pirina, but before him Loris Palmerini the truth comes out and the various Pertini,Togliatti,De Gasperi,Bonomi,Sforza,Casati,Badoglio,Umberto of Savoy and God forbid Pius XII AND MANY OTHER knew what was happening to thousands of Istrian-Dalmatian-Venetian practically imprisoned and put to death in the prison camps in Zagreb and Belgrade. And what of the Fathers of the home and the Tito paid for these “Italian” not return more at home?!?!?
THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE THE SUFFERING they suffered THESE VENETI Istrian-DALMATI-FRIULIAN.
THEN I HAVE TO PRAY THOSE TAKING PART IN THIS DISCUSSION TO HAVE SOME DOUBT AND read up. EC NE OF BOOKS ARE DIFFERENT AND AFTER, ONLY AFTER THESE TOPICS debate…Bloodied FROM THOUSANDS OF DEATHS.
Giancarlo from Verona
Roberto
28 September 2008 @ 09:32
I take the liberty of observing that if Friuli had been annexed to Tito's Yugoslavia at this time, after the dissolution of the former Yugoslavia, It would be part of Slovenia or perhaps even constitute an autonomous state. If the same fate had befallen the Veneto now no one would be so much to talk about autonomy: it would have been accomplished for about twenty years. Also it would probably spared the urban destruction that devastated the Veneto plain in the quadrilateral between Treviso, Master, Padua and Vicenza. All this of course in the meantime had not broken out the Third World War. A shift of the 'Iron Curtain’ so west would in fact could aggravate certain strains, but it is equally true that the condition of the Yugoslavia Federation as a non-aligned country could have mitigated this difficulty .
In addition it would also be spared the grain “Dal Molin” and the great viability that the Veneto so badly needs could have been achieved in the past eighteen years, if we rely on what happened in Slovenia. Maybe we would have even one or two nuclear power plants, which however -considerato that the technology adopted for the construction of that of KrÅ¡ko is identical to that employed in Chernobyl- It could have been a big problem.
politically (always based on the experience of the former Yugoslavia) we would almost certainly be a fascist regime, a-Tuđman, with a potential alternative socialdemocratic (which would not imply a radically different scenario from the current one).
The cost of living would be lower and with it wages, which - combined with the favorable position for exchanges with the heart of Europe- it would make us an ideal land for foreign investment.
serum
24 July 2008 @ 11:22
Palmerini you write bad start “I have already written about the crimes of the Fascists in Istria and Dalmatia” I went to the article but it is just a little discussion’ cloying on the back more or less of a dictatorship in order to balance things in Italy…and instead in this article you abound on the crimes of the Communists after the war is over, I recommend this article http://www.anpipianoro.it/memoria%20commenti/radici%20fasciste%20foibe%20+.pdf maybe a little bit’ fairer on the course of events. Then the alleged Venetian of Istria and Dalmatia, my opinion is that those lands were “colony” Venice since the early days of the Republic, however, it is undeniable Slavic component of the population granparte (I think of the Uskoci) and the ancient spoken of Istria and Dalmatia Istriot,istrorumeno,Dalmatico,vegliotto,morlacco that had little or nothing to do with the Venetian and which disappeared or assimilated when in fact there were the Venetians conquerors. Then if you tell me the Serenissima was better if you can talk but you can not claim rights over territories and populations, laboriously are trying to get out and break free from a past made only of wars, achievements,exploitations,deaths and deportations
giancarlo
23 July 2008 @ 13:54
Well, it appears to me that it was Austria that proposed the way “pacifica” the conflict that had seen most of the armies engaged against the Prussians and if anything were to reject the pact savoy…Then it is true that there were more Venetians than Austrians against the “Italian” But I dwell to see how many commanders were both Venetians in Custoza that Lissa and the answer for now “nobody”. I would parallelize with the war in Iraq how many members of the American army are of Anglo-Saxon ethnicity? very few are all soldiers of Hispanic / Puerto Rican origin, or are African American or Asian origin and this because? Given the extreme poverty of these population groups, here is the only gain “sure” in this case it is represented by the army. The parallelism with the situation arises spontaneously in the Veneto 1866 where harassed by taxes and taxes, controlled by the Austrian police, the only outlet and profit for most of the population was the army. Eccosi explained the 45000veneti Custoza and Lissa sailors….then we are so sure that in Sadowa there was no Venetian / Friulian in the Austro-Hungarian ranks? E’ easy to dissert on history especially when you want to bring on your side men and historical periods that are not suitable for the time in which this society now exists
Pandemic 1918
21 May 2008 @ 10:44
Always very interesting when it comes out of the teeth of Masonry and its occult roles in all historical stages that affect us. The result is a framework that, far from complete, makes us understand how the “History” ce as well as the teach is purely a fake, very far from reality . I consider very interesting the first image of this post: the Masonic emblem (in itself) the Italian Masonic Republic “completed” by square and compass. Where is he from ? Thank you for clarification.
loris
2 May 2008 @ 13:32
Adriano,
Italy was an ally of Prussia to attack Austria from behind. But when it came to respecting the pacts, he sought instead an agreement with Austria to obtain Lombardy-Veneto. In short betrayed Prussia.
Austria was available, but Italy ALSO wanted to flex its muscles to justify annexation, why did the war in Custoza, but he took a thrashing by the Venetians who fought in favor of the Austrians. Then Italy tried again by sea, a Lissa, and also he is taken there. Loser, the Italai got the same territory despite having lost it by land and sea.
Italy has always started a war with an ally and then betrayed him and “to win” with the opponent. As he did with the Germans and Americans.
False and traitors.
adriano Venetian
1 May 2008 @ 19:21
what does it mean:”it is enough to know that the Lombard from Veneto has become Italian because Italy betrayed the pacts with Prussia to understand that it is only a matter of demagogy”. IN What was the betrayal?
Lem olld
5 October 2007 @ 21:22
The ministry of justice and the interior are invited to re-think the interesting and funny story,but if you did not feel called upon to do the right thing as have their colleagues over the last 17 years will enjoy the spectacle of injustice and state violence that went on for years. The amounts available to the Ministry of Interior is 7 billion, while the captain and his followers spent over new financing stupidity of clever and realize a devastating scandal,especially for them!!! The discovery of the truth in this affair was the nightmare of the commander and his followers, but they were certain of the â € œsuccess of the attempt to hide it with the complicity of the strong powers of the stateâ € ??,because they were afraid of being called into question,So they decided to pretend not to know anything allowing the commander and his faithful to contain the scandal among friends,since deciding to take a step back it is considered a disaster or a humiliating defeat for the powerful fighting a real war against a foreign, while taking a step forward means confirming this dramatic reality that emerged after the discovery of the truth in this part of this crime and admitting that the person was wrong afterwards 17 years of struggle and unnecessary barricades! See All history: http://www.lemin.spilnder.com
loris
4 October 2007 @ 16:49
Vanni was the head of the Partisans of Garibaldi, and he was in direct contact with the CLN. Togliatti had a proclamation of the same meaning and tenor published for the annexation to Yugoslavia.
renzo
3 October 2007 @ 23:10
the whole is a lot of invenzioni.Ammesso that Vanni has said what has been described, it is known that the same Vanni has never represented neither the Italian Communists, or Garibaldi's partisans around the italiano.Egli territory is one and, then, It does not rule.
Dear Palmerini, be more discreet when you get in “arguments” much larger than you and you just do not know . A partisan partisan who asks you not invent things out of whole cloth.