There is a legal path to the freedom of the Venetian people?
Personally it is from 1997 that I propose to the Venetians the few solutions that exist for our freedom of people, and these concepts have been plagiarized in a bad way or even purposely distorted by different parties politicie groups to date by 5 Active but about 10 During the years. (This means that my intention of spreading concepts and waking up the people still had great success !!)
The answer therefore is yes, There is a legal way to freedom, But to understand it some basic concepts are needed which are the tools to understand it . They will seem obvious once they learn, Yet these obvious concepts are not included by the clone movements, sometimes specially distorted. And on the other hand, Once you learn, you will be able to distinguish the paths valid from the fake ones.
How to distinguish what is viable in fact and legally from what is not?
The first concept to be defined is the “people Venetian”, which is nothing more than the group of people who identify themselves with history, The Venetian language and legal history and they feel Venetian.
In fact, according to the most accredited definition (Comfort) , and in any case the only recognized, A people are made up of a community of people who have use, costumes, history and possibly a common language (The language can also be different as in the case of the Swiss). But to be “people” It is also necessary that there is also the feeling of belonging to the group considered as differentiated by the rest of the citizens of the state of belonging.
If on the one hand international law recognizes the right of self -determination to peoples (and only to peoples, not to regions or municipalities or families!), From the other, it is not enough to be a people to be legally and benefit from that right of self -determination, It is necessary first of all “feel” people and act as such, declaring themselves publicly and peacefully pursuing their milestone of freedom.
The people also exist or do not exist as such regardless of the administrative and/or state borders. For example if there is a Kurdo people it is widespread on multiple states, How the Tyroleans could be, and how the Venetians are.
Also also within the States, quias from the “regions” administrative or entities “territorial” they are perfectly coinciding with the communities that self -have the. In practice, a people are never the one formed by all residing in a region.
All this does not say the writer, it is instead stated and recognized by the international criteria on peoples. In a nutshell the Venetian people are not the citizens included in the administrative region “Veneto” o Istria, also because i “residents” they may not even feel at all “Venetian” But but Italian, or Croati or what is the current official state of the territory. This is a consequential fact and obvious to the cultural genocide, historical and linguistic that the Venetian people have undergone in the last 220 years. Genocide and denial of existence that still undergoes, having been censored and canceled our history and language, And this explains why many Venetians do not feel Venetian, Actually they don't even know they are, they are perfectly colonized , As I was myself until the first awakenings of the 1994 , and back from Belgium where I learned to understand our specificity, I had various stimuli until the awareness of the 1997 deriving from the reading of a Venetian history book, Also stimulated by the socket of the bell tower of San Marco.
On the other hand, it must be said that perhaps perhaps the 30-40% of the resident population in the Venetias is not of Venetian origin, they are intra and non -EU immigrants, None of them can see the nationality imposed by declaring them all “Venetian” How do some political movements do.
Despite the situation, there are still millions of people who feel Venetian and actually descend from those populations that have been permanently in the Venezie for millennia, or they are people of other descendants who have integrated and mixed with generations with the Venetians, And they are also the owners of sovereignty (For example the refugees of Candia, or the Armenians etc.).
In short words, language is an important element, among the most comfortable, To identify a people, But those who speak another language can also be said to be the right, For example Friulian or Cimbro, which however have a common history with the Venetians, and they had been part of it for centuries. The Friulians belonged to Venetia et Histria already before the Roman Empire, Together with the Istrians and Dalmatians they have common archeology in the Venetians. But also the Brescians and the Bergamoos, although they arrived after, they have 2 Millennia of common history …
In short, a people carve out on the geographical paper in accordance with its history and tradition, and not through the administrative boundaries of the state that governs at the moment, also because administrative borders can (and I'm) often cut erroneously with respect to identities. Confirming is the fact that there is no only one Italian region (Apart from the islands, perhaps ) which includes only one historical minority, Not even the Veneto region that has the Cimbri and the Laddes and the Germanophones. The situation is complicated by erroneous political, for example degree, sea city, It was the seat of the first Veneto doge, The Venetian language has always been spoken of Venetian and still speak, Yet it is part of the Montana province of Gorizia, which for the other is part of the Friuli region -venezia Giulia, where the part of “VENEZIA” It is actually the majority, And it was called Venice before Venice-Julia (Istria and Dalmatia) It only remained politically that a very small part .
Therefore we draw peoples on the geographical paper according to their identity and not according to the borders imposed by the States, These elements are clearly seen distinctly, and in the case of the Venetians:
– Not all of them are Venetian in the Veneto area, And it is not enough to declare himself Venetian to be such a right right
– Only an authority of self -government of the Veneto people in accordance with international law can recognize the legal status to belong to the Veneto people to a person. An authority is not legally valid if the sovereign government is not declared, And the recognition of citizenship is worth nothing if issued by an authority not compliant with international requirements; If you do not get this status of citizen Veneto legally, you are not Venetian for legal purposes, legally it is “Italian” in the sense of nationality and there is Italian or Slovenian citizenship, or Croatian or any other citizenship depending on where you live and you are recognized.
– A person can have more citizenships but has only one nationality, The recognition of nationality makes rights arise if the nation is historical and only in its territory.
-From the above it is already implicit that the Venetian people do not coincide with the residents in the Veneto region (Italian administrative body born in 1971) Because not all those who live in the Veneto region are all the Venetians, And also Venetian are also most of those who live in Friuli, Venice-Julia (which is called this not by chance) and part of the “Lombardy” ( which is not an identity but a region), In short, the Venetian people define themselves by going to see the history and language of the territory, And not what Italy says with the boundaries imposed for administrative interest or the political parties that run in the regional elections.
– The Veneto people have the right to their own state, both as self -determination (with conservation of Italian debts) is returning to the last state illegally invaded by Italy (in 1859 – part “Lombarda” – E 1866 – Venetian and Friulian part), And I demonstrated this in 2007 (In this way you can return to sovereignty without Italian debts – indeed with the right of compensation for the damage suffered by illegal invasion).
The concept of people internationally shows that all the initiatives of “referendum” of the Veneto Region, as those of the self -styled are “governments” that in reality they are not compliant or recognized by any state or any international body and are born in violation of the rights of the Veneto people.
From the few elements you already realize that asking for the region's referendum, In addition to recognizing the illegality of Italy legal, in fact it denies its identity to the Venetians , just as they also do those who recognize Venetian “anyone” is resident in the Venetian territory, These two strands of thought are in violation of the international law of the Veneto people, right to be oneself and not decided by others.
Unfortunately not only are there those who would make a referendum of the Venetians also vote in non -Venetian, There are those who have already tried us, But then the right should be given to any immigrant to declare himself Veneto and vote, On the other hand they too would then be conditioned by the choice of a new state. Obviously I disagree, But in fact there are groups that accept that anyone who declares themselves Veneto, Even those who have never been in the Venetian territory and are not Veneto of descent and do not speak Veneto but simply declare that he is Veneto (This is in the documents of the “the Venetians Forum” of the 2008 and in the cards of different movements). Think that absurdity: like in 1866 they voted (illegally) Italian soldiers to decide the future of the Venetians and prevented them from voting on Lombardy residents, Today we would like to make other immigrants decide (Italians and not), maybe brought by force, The fate of the Venetians, On the other hand reduced, against their will, to the Veneto Region alone .
Moral of the story, If you want to do something serious, you first need to check these legal conditions for movements and parties, actually look at the concept of “people Venetian” , and therefore let all those who do not recognize only the Venetians of all the Venezie the exclusive right to define themselves and their own people and to vote for their own destiny. Otherwise it would be internationally illegal and null.
In a nutshell you need the’ Registry of the citizens of the Veneto people, by me and others founded in 1999, And it is to date the only one legally valid for international law, The others circulating are fake or illegal clones for international law, made verified by the Venetian Forum in the 2008 and from recent checks.
With this founding concepts, In reality, international law obligations, Anyone who is able to recognize the lines by those who propose legally founded things.
It must be said that in addition to the return paths to state independence there is also the possibility of returning to effective sovereignty although not as a state, through the path of recognition of national minority, To date in full and promising development.
For further information see path to sovereignty E Independence , path to the rights of the Venetian people as a national minority