Here because’ Grillo could win elections
I read that according to some polls Grillo could take the 42% !
The following however are my thoughts after listening to the network Grillo rallies in Savona and Isernia.
I took note of his economic proposals, and I list a few, which, however, they are quite different from those listed in the official program. There is in fact a movement 5 stars and a Beppe Grillo on stage, that says something different.
An economic program based on numbers .
In he intends to cut all the privileges of the parties of the last days of rallies Grillo, unions, some newspapers, eliminating the monopolies and unjustified advantages for some companies, including banks, To convert everything towards the base of the company.
That cuts:
1) 90 billion from the recovery of the unpaid taxes of the Slot Machine
2) 11 billion from party financing (Repealed by referendum)
3) 7 cut billions from the provinces (net of relocated staff)
4) 4 billion from the cut of the upper board 5.000 Euros per month to raise the minimum ones
5) 1 billion from funding to TV and newspapers
6) 1 billion from the cut in funding for private schools to encourage public
7) nationalization of failed banks and recovery of stolen goods by managers
8) salaries of public and private limited manager 12 times that of the first-level employees
Already this amount is impressive and makes the additional proposals for citizenship income for 3 years, the financing of small businesses and scientific research, IRAP cut, retirement in 60 years, all without increasing taxes.
It is not just a vote of protest.
The parties of the duopoly PD-PDL have done everything to be hated, forcing people to hunger without sacrificing anything of their illegal enrichment. Because the Italians still remember that they have voted against the financing of the parties. The vote in Grillo is not just a protest, but an affirmation of existence of those who are contrary to this regime, where PD, not affecting the conflict of interest, Berlusconi's interests made himself a guarantor. From this we explain why both Pd and PDL have tried to credit themselves as their respective enemies, but Monti, third wheel, he denied them by preventing the polarization of the electorate. On the other hand Monti was wanted by Pd and PDL, while today they both decry, thus showing that the parties are not credible
A skillful player in media censorship
All media, until last week, have not given any visibility to the movement 5 stars (still present in some regions and municipalities), while they gave a lot of visibility to Monti, and other new small parties, without these were present in parliament. E’ It was a serious own goal, because Grillo's squares were full, and they have been for over 1 year. This has credited the idea that Grillo is the only one in people “antisistema” of parties, the only uncomfortable to the current regime. Grillo himself ably prevented her to participate in the debate, strengthening the idea that his movement is the persecuted, the censored. E’ A fact known by the studies of social psychology that in such situations people take sides with the weakest , that is, the absent, cricket. E’ the same technique used by Berlusconi in 1994, reinforced by the creation of “enemy”, What he tried to do this too sprint , but without success. Now the parties are in disarray, everyone is talking about cricket in negative terms, reinforcing the perception of “antisistema” in the electorate.
The network as a multiplier of mouth.
Through the network, beginning in 2005, Grillo has encouraged the emergence of activist groups, later became the classic local party committees , fielding a free workforce that only PCI and DC had seen. This has led to rallies in Piazza, Free version of his paid performances, where many thousands of people listened, became in turn a spokesman for what the media did not say. Those who went to the rallies became a multiplier of what was born on the net. The average one-way lost engraftment, newspapers have lost readers. Big Brother is now foiled by the network and career politicians have not been able to predict him, just know that until a few years ago. many of them did not even know of the existence of the network who 20 years.
The lie of the spread overwhelms all contenders
Comparing the graphs of the BTP trend, BUND e SPREAD, It is seen that in August 2012, during the Monti government, the spread was just as high as in November 2011, when Berlusconi resigned risk bankruptcy . This shows that Monti has not restored Italy, Not only, The spread is linked to the risk “Italy” And he cares about who he is in the government, Because Italy is very bad. See graphs
http://www.borse.it/spread/rendimento/BTP/720/giorni
http://www.borse.it/spread/rendimento/BUND/720/giorni
http://www.borse.it/spread/quotazioni/BTP_BUND/720/giorni
The debate on the spread has convinced voters that they lied Monti is that those who have put it to the government, at least they do not know what they're talking.
The outsiders play in favor:
Ingroia, which is together with Di Pietro, will go to erode a little’ of votes to the left Vendola, why Bersani attacked him
Giannino would erode some’ of votes in the PDL, Something will predict anyway, why Berlusconi, She attacked him
The Monti list, borders, Casini and Montezemolo, Something will err to PD and PDL, abassandone the threshold.
The result is a general weakening of the PD-PDL Duopoly, and therefore a greater relative value of the voting M5S.
The bad weather could reduce the votes of moderates, strengthening the weight of M5S.
Astancerism will strengthen the weight of M5S, but abstainers could go to vote in protest and M5S
My opinion on the program:
I don't like the idea that cutting a democratic level (the province) is healthy, it is never.
I do not like that the cut is absent 1 million public employees, useless, even more for the progress of the network
I do not like that the cut is absent 1 million fake invalids, that cost 5-6 billion / year
I do not like that there was no talk of redistribution of resources between regions, at least to make them equal to each other based on the population
I don't like the absence of the problem “Justice”, among the worst in the world, and the problem that prisons are inhumane
I like that illustrious unknown, but uncensored, They will go to parliament, With the intention of cleaning
I like that for the first time since the war squares are filled, Perhaps so full that they had never seen in the republic
I like that the TV be ridiculed and made useless by the network
I like that we face this momentous step with a laugh
I like people who are looking around and realize that the system has collapsed
A judgment on the person of Grillo.
Listening to cricket I find it hard to believe that he simply recites. His words seem authentic, But it is true that he is an actor, a comedian, if we had the fool of the court.. But I remember when in 2005, giving him my dossier to Jesolo who demonstrates the existence of the dictatorship, I was amazed, but he looked at him, E 2 years after the Bologna stage saw a magistrate to say some things in my dossier, without mentioning the source. On the other hand Grillo is like the Madonna of Lourdes, a symbol from which thousands of people travel in procession to present their grievances. And he assimilates everything that comes, plasma, the stages on stage by reusing what they need, in an ironic and ridiculing life, but it cannot, for scenic grounds, cite sources. And this should not be a political, one that knows how to listen, while having a project ?
The fact is that Grillo is already his age, And it won't last long. There will ever be a replacement to Grillo who becomes a leader inside the movement 5 stars ? I think it will be very difficult, But I am more afraid that they remain the usual criminals that are there in Parliament today.
Grillo then fell into the trap of the referendum on the water, that as I have shown, needed to do the opposite, so much so that he still wonders about why privately deprive. It is not said that Grillo, however well-intentioned, can effectively lead the country. But there is someone else valid on which to aim without a limiting ideology as it seems to be Grillo ?
Said this, I invite everyone to vote no matter what, as long as you go to vote, because those who do not vote or do white card or nothing in fact leave the vote to those who go to vote. But make no mistake: Italy is over and it is too late to save it.
mario cue
19 May 2013 @ 10:19
Dear Loris,I share your analysis and mention a wise proverb that says :a tree does not fall with one shot,even if as we know, the last one to drop it,courage and patience and praise to those who contribute to demolish this caste ,now shameful and outlawed for many years,we start with honest people ,We will certainly be on the work of the work,I also want to thank you for the commitment that you have been putting in favor of our rights for years ,Thank you and best of luck
Luigi
23 February 2013 @ 13:58
Speaking of Italy… free and democratic that its citizens, I ask:
E’ It ascertained that really want it united and indivisible was the Italian people, if not’ NEVER NEVER BEEN NATO and then ..? Obviously if one does not arise he has no sovereign.
How many have labored to make it and make it indivisible ..? And why’ indivisible if the people and’ King said ..?
In those who died for the cravings of others ..?
The’ surest, if you attend the schools of the tricolor, TO DO THE ITALIANS, cabbage that we go out… At least, I say, get closer to the truth’ since we can not have it.
There is talk of independence; macro region; of autonomy; self-determination; of secession; of Padania; a lot of things that do not lead to CONCLUSION.
Why’ all this CONFUSION ..?
Sara’ Why’ We robbed us of all we are genuine confusion ..?
If everyone was Italian there would be the problem of esternarlo every second minute and every hour of every day and the years ..???
If I have a carboy and there we put prosecco… if the change from carboy bottles… changes something by accident ..?
is but’ I vinegar… will pass’ RABOSO to change if the container ..?
So’ They made us existing peoples before the state Italy.
Multi -commemorations would be needed and of this and the other event to cheat us and to make us feel good and silent ..??
Dear ever sovereign states and least sapiens (even if it goes to the moon) I learn to read the facts or succumb ..!
A LB states in this regard:
we learn to read the facts not to succumb.
Not to be right.
But only not to succumb.
Amen
PS:
Grillo or those who will not be able to make Italy and the Italians for him ..!
Unless a great MIRACLE ..!
Chicco
23 February 2013 @ 07:25
I agree on everything and all the comments…………however, if at least we could eliminate some bureaucracy and then delete the power to those feeding and manages this creating all those negative phenomena (corruption, mafia, privileges to the usual “known” and so forth) Perhaps our lives, with a little more justice could really change.
Miclos
22 February 2013 @ 18:42
I appreciate your fine article, but I do some considerations:
1) Grillo is a leading sui generis, he has always publicly stated a spokesperson, do not go to Parliament but there will be simple citizens, some of which have high professional competence, others will soon learn how the parliamentary mechanisms
2) In your article there is no mention of the idea of New Europoa of the peoples preconated by Grillo in place of the European financiers and lobbies
3) Grillo is wrong when he says that all parties are composed of corrupt bureaucrats and without any popular support. Even in traditional parties there is a minority of honest ( Almost totality in the radical party, that despite being a small party it has strong roots in the liberal and libertarian andOld of this country), and squares still fill in the elections of charismatic leaders of political parties and big unions
4) I disagree with your statement on public employees. If it is true that there are sectors with excess staff, it is equally true that shortage of nurses in many hospitals, the social workers in many municipalities, the financiers to make a carpet checks on tax evaders, teachers for substitutes, etc.. The problem is the maldistribution, not the number of civil servants
5) if it is true that there are many fake invalids is equally true that the real ones acompagnamento the checks were cut, subsidies for families, so much so that they have more times manifested to claim their sacred rights to the assistance of their disabled or totally disabled relatives
6) nobody talks, even Grillo, the shame of the fees received by certain TV characters, by players, by presenters and so on. E’ simply disgraceful that a coduttore Sanremo perceive 600.000 euro for four nights, which it is made possible by the fact that millions of viewers are glued to the television to follow the festival
7) Nobody talks about advertising . E’ a big businnes, affects all media, public and private, pollutes the minds of viewers; On the other hand, the increase in turnover for companies advertised by networks in Italy does not exceed 2%. Furthermore, not everyone knows that companies can deduct the 100% of advertising expenses pursuant to art. 108 the Income Tax Code; it does not take Einstein to figure out who ultimately pays for the advertising and the media.
I apologize for the length of this comment, but I could not be more synthetic than that.
Carlo De Paoli
22 February 2013 @ 18:20
I liked the examination of the current situation of Italy and I agree with Loris about the fact that this country has now arrived at the terminus.
From newspapers today we learn that the “house” Agnelli is under the magnifying glass of the Guardia di Finanza “suppository” tax evasion.
The Agnelli represented, in this republican regime, the monarchy in Italy.
For decades the lawyer succeeded, He is having on its payroll whole Parliament, not to pay, for extended periods, even salaries to its employees: (layoffs).
His company, every year, He declared balanced budgets except in loss, so he does not even paying taxes.
Now we learn that the members of his family are held, in the Italian courts, the heredity that John scattered, in the form of liquid capital, (billion €, Naturally), in banks of countries of “remittances” millionaires live.
John can not testify against her “employees”: those of the parliament who took more money from him of those who always paid the lawyer to his other employees: those on the assembly line.
This shows, in my opinion, che i “Patti” between Caste and the Head of the Company, the lack of John, -direct witness- They have no value.
The ancients “served” They are not felt more bound to the commitment taken with the poultry: “Who had had those data gave”.
And if Agnelli … What can expect all the other entrepreneurs who have “Patti” analogues with the parties?
Unless …. are not BANKS!
Luigi
22 February 2013 @ 18:12
Allow me to take action on the comments of Ubaldo Cross,
I agree with Loris when he says that Italy e’ over, perhaps not’ mai nata, But I disagree with the speech made by Ubaldo.
Venetian We do not want to be Italian. They were forced to be.
then, talk about freedom’ Referring the mistake of great children of good woman of 150 years ago it is very irritating.
Obviously with respect to the idea of others, but will not serve other mica 150 years' Italy united to say that ‘ IMPOSSIBLE stand united and that goes remade, attempted, the speech to be INDEPENDENT ..??
So you can avail’ mention being and FREE DEMOCRATS.
I don't really like the idea of redoing Italy. It sucks ow and after ..??
With the same Italian What ever sortira’ if not the same sucks ..??
Forgive me if I'm so’ a bit’ the sarcastic… I just hope no one be offended for my ideas PEACEFUL.
I declare myself a pacifist always so.
But', We cannot always take them with the idea of redoing the groom called Italy.
Greetings
Ubaldo Cross
22 February 2013 @ 11:59
Dear Loris,
I fully agree with what you might be otherwise scritto.Perfetto.Non. You terms the article with too much pessimism. You say that Italy is over.. This Italy is over. But if we want to ( you really want)We could re -establish another Italy,truly free,DEMOCRATIC and SOVRANA. As long as you want it all. So a healthy hope is there. But everything depends on us and our situational awareness.
santo
22 February 2013 @ 11:38
Maybe Grillo is a dreamer of unattainable utopias but I voted for him and with pleasure and determination because he had the strength and courage to awaken there that was already present and not manifest in the soul of so many people. There is no those who replace it ? But it doesn't matter why this movement/community as he called it does not need to replace but a network of skills already’ Present in the movement that will be the bones of this new strength that increasing skills by anyone from abroad, propose new ideas to the well -being of peoples. No coincidence that a British broadcaster who interviewed him recently, made it clear that it would be desirable to have them available in Provider England. In the ultimately I believe that what is being verified in Italy replicates /spreading also in other European countries and embodies a real renewal for a Europe more of the peoples who have governed and forced to travel through narrow paths for the most and motorways for a few for a few.
Danilo
22 February 2013 @ 10:17
Dear Palmerini, I really liked his analysis that I share almost everything, Also his criticism of Beppe Grillo program.
Of course, many Italians will find themselves walking on a wall where on the one hand there are lions and disguised lambs and on the other hand the darkness with some flashes of light, so that where we will jump between the lions and lambs or in the dark with only the courage given by hope on renewal? I never reasoned with the fear of the future and I go where I see the enthusiasm, certainly I will not forget to take the stack!
Giorgio
22 February 2013 @ 07:32
Compared to the anthropocracy, Grillo are bazzecole.