You do not understand a damn of the various independence movements ? Here's help
Something to understand the’ Venetian independence and its various movements?
The first thing to know is that Italy has always considered the Venetians to be stupid, or “mona”, that you can make fun of in the urn. As you read you will discover that this is historically vero. Don't be surprised if you find out that you are scammed at the ballot box in the future too.
And in any case to understand the feeling of Venetian independence, you should know a little history of the Venetian people, a thousand-year history, gorgeous, that of a people that exists since 3500 years. Here now we talk about what are the paths to return independent, not of those who propose l’ Autonomy, it is not the goal of becoming “Federated” with Italy, but truly sovereign and independent from Italy. If you lack this idea and will, and historical conscience to understand it, it serves no purpose that you keep reading.
We at the Self-Government of the Veneto People have began to exercise the sovereignty of the Venetian people since 1999, claiming the entire territory from Bergamo to Udine to be Venetian, also of the Friulian one. In fact, people are protected in international law by the principle of self-determination of peoples, also recognized by the Italian laws in force art.2 L.n.340 / 1971 and L.n.881 / 1977. These are the things that the forgery Venetians now repeat, maybe adding that before the 2006 you couldn't talk about it, what exactly is false. We were the first and we are still the only ones who recognize the history and language of the Venetian people, what the movements “independent” they don't, and offer you a “people Venetian” without history who speaks Italian and recognizes Italian sovereignty.
We have requested the recognition of sovereignty with hundreds of complaints, appeals and petitions, ma la bontà legale del nostro percorso si è però scontrata con una amara realtà definitivamente accertata nel 2011: not only the Italian government, ma perfino i più alti giudici negano l’esistenza del popolo veneto e se ne fregano di queste loro leggi.
C’è pure una sentenza del 2011 of the Court of Cassation. D’altra parte lo Stato Italiano non svolge più elezioni democratiche fin dal 2006 (Lo dice una sentenza che però dichiara ugualmente legale il governo non eletto !).
In a nutshell and said simply, tutti i discorsi che girano sull’idea che si possa fare un referendum per l’indipendenza del “people Venetian” obtained through an Italian institutional referendum they are without foundation, e già dimostrati tali da sentenza. We are talking about a series of movements like :
– Veneto State (clone of the original one) dell’avv. Selmo,
– Party Nasionae Veneto then disappeared
– Veneto State (semantic confusion)
– Independence Veneta
– independent Venetian
– other clones.
These parties serve only to bring power to the Italian institutions, for some and for me they are a mockery for venetians.
Per gli stessi motivi sono del tutto giuridicamente infondati tutti i percorsi che propongono l’indipendenza di una regione amministrativa italiana, because no Italian regional territory is inhabited by a single people, except the islands, and this is no coincidence , but something desired and determined to erase historical and millenary identities.
On the other hand, Italy has always considered the Venetians gods “mone” who like ignorant fools fall into the trap of parties and electoral scams, and this has actually been true since 1866! And also the referendum monarchy-republic of 1946 it was done without the participation of the Venetians of Istria, Dalmatia and the Adriatic Islands that had a legal right to vote and decide which state to join.
reflect: presenting itself as “friend” or even 0 relative it is easier to rob someone, in reality many fake independence parties are useful to Italy and serve to rob someone who thinks you are his friend.
Furthermore, it has become completely evident in the last few years 2 years that the governments of the world do not care about the rights of peoples (and USA and EU species, but also China ) , unless it serves their interests. We are in this area of ​​influence, the independence of the Venetian People is not convenient for the US-EU Empire , and explicitly they do not recognize the right of an ethnic group or people to their institutions even when the government bombards them . Remember, however, that if you speak Italian it is very difficult to say that you are not Italian.
So in fact these states only recognize the right of sovereignty and integrity of states, How it was 100 Years ago.
Luckily, with legal and historical studies, I discovered in 2006 that Lombardy-Veneto was actually illegally invaded, in 1859 in the Lombardy part, It is in the 1866 in the Venice part. This is in violation of the treaties and of that same principle of sovereignty, independence and integrity of the states that the USA and the EU today claim as primary, for example in Ukraine.
Furthermore, Lombardy-Veneto is the legal state “succession” (legal heir) of the Venetian Republic, to which in 1815 friend)black the Ducati of Mantua and Milan merged (in the sites below you will find the details of the whole story). We are always talking about Venetian sovereignty, but enlarged. In fact, while the Ducati of Milan and Mantua ended legally “extinct”, the Venetian Republic changed its name, and in a certain sense it became sovereign again because it had been “eradicated” militarily in the 1797 (that is, rendered completely incapable of defending itself militarily), when this fact was considered legal. Actually still in the 1945 Germany came “eradicated” and for this she was not even made to sit at the table of the peace treaty.
The Lombard-Wind instead won the war, but it was infiltrated by the Italian Camorra which took over the institutions like a cancer , threatening anyone who opposed him with death. Completely slimy and illegal, without any honor.
We are carrying out not only the right to self-determine their institutions that the people of Veneto have, and only it, but also the right of sovereignty and independence of the Lombardy-Veneto state, but in it we recognized the existence of the Venetian people but also of the Insubre people (duchy of Milan) and Mantovano (Duchy of Mantua) .
So Veneti, Insubri, Mantovani, potentially other minorities such as Friulians and German speakers, they will be able to become independent again but only once the independence of Lombardy-Veneto has been achieved.
We have brought the studies on the sovereignty of Lombardy-Veneto to court, getting in 2008 the recognition of Italy's possible non-sovereignty over the territory through a sentence . Italy has never had legal sovereignty over the territory of the Lombardy-Veneto state, and furthermore the annexation was canceled in any case 2010, not by mistake but by our international pressure.
Basically we claim the right to “as long as the state is legitimate and does not behave badly with colonized subjects” of Lombardy-Veneto which is a victorious state in war (non “eradicated” like the Venetian Republic), illegally invaded by Piedmont and annexed by Italy through fraud (my other studies have shown that the annexation vote was expressed by Italian soldiers). All this is prohibited by international law.
So not just the regional referendum “italiano” it's a hoax, but they are:
– the referendum path self-managed by self-proclaimed subjects and limited to the Veneto region (PLEBISCITO.EU)
– the claim of sovereignty of the Venetian republic
– l’idea di una secessione legale tramite istituzioni e partiti che riconoscono la sovranità italiana
In particolare l’ultimo punto: chi corre alle elezioni italiane senza dire che l’Italia è illegale fin dall’inizio sta facendo il lavoro di “legitimize” l’Italia e quindi costruisce un muro che impedisce l’indipendenza, perché se l’Italia è legale la sua costituzione vieta l’indipendenza. There is no law, for the current USA and EU, that allows to bypass the Constitution.
So the “referendum” all are buffaloes legally and practically unfounded, deleterie perché di fatto negano la sovranità sul territorio dello stato legale Lombardo-Veneto, mentre rivendicare la falsa annessione dell’Italia e la sovranità del Lombardo-Veneto è l’ the only legally recognized route valid internationally today.
The demonstration “external” these facts give it to you:
– Catalonia is denied the referendum , non è mai esistita come stato tal quale è oggi
– alla Scozia è stato concesso il referendum, in fact it was a state and the English government has always known it
– alle ex-repubbliche Jugoslave è stata riconosciuta la sovranità perché erano stati esistenti prima della Jugoslavia
– lo status del Kossovo non è ancora chiaro, few states recognize him as sovereign, non la stessa Serbia e tutto questo dopo una sanguinosa guerra che ha visto accorrere i caschi blu dell’ONU (which seems to happen only when there are oil interests)
I invite you to see these sites
www.statoveneto.net
www.Lombardo-Veneto.net
and to get busy if you want to free yourself from the state that has always impoverished Veneti, Lombardi and Mantovani.
Alberto
6 August 2014 @ 12:38
C iao, then I would like to know how to get rid of these illegal tyrants…se ti serve una piccola donazione mandami una email con l’iban o con un link su paypal.