from the 2012 the Veneto people can no longer make new self-determination, only that of the 1999.
The recognition of constitutional status of the right to “Self-Government of the Venetian People” given by Article 2 of Law n.340 / 1971, combined with the right of self-determination of peoples given by the Italian ratification of “International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights” which took place with law 881/1977, legally allowed the self-determination of the Venetian people (and not citizens of the Veneto Region) which although possible since 1977 è avvenuta con successo solo nel 1999.Puoi vedere il sito storico di quella autodeterminazione cliccando qui , mentre le Istituzioni nazionali venete che da quegli atti si sono sviluppate si trovano oggi su www.statoveneto.net.
As is well specified and evident on the site, l’Autogoverno del Popolo Veneto è nato come esercizio legale di diritti civili e politici internazionali riconosciuti dalla Repubblica Italiana tramite la legge di ratifica n.881/1977 del diritto dei popoli a farlo. Al tempo non era ancora stata dimostrata l’illegalità dell’annessione del 1866, e quindi lo status di territorio coloniale del Lombardo-Veneto, ma comunque la legge permetteva l’autodeterminazione di nuove Istituzioni, anche con l’avvallo della Costituzione che tramite le ratifiche si adatta all’ordinamento internazionale. This gave birth to a new body initially part of the Italian Republic, it was a double reading issued by parliament and therefore having the value of constitutional law, but not subject to the Italian State just as the Municipalities of Livigno and Campione were not subject to it, which in fact did not pay VAT to the Italian State. In fact, the Constitution also speaks of the indivisibility of the Republic, ma non dello Stato italiano. Nel Patto Internazionale sussiste l’obbligo per i firmatari, in questo caso la Repubblica Italiana, di favorire e promuovere l’autodeterminazione, eventualmente eliminando le norme penali o di altro genere che lo impedissero.
L’Autogoverno del Popolo Veneto nel 2000 ha chiesto l’immediato trasferimento dei poteri ai sensi della “DCP International Pact” (L.n.881/1977) art. 1.3 e art. 2.1 , something that the State has not complied with by violating its international duty given by Article 2.1 of the Covenant, ma ciò non di meno così facendo lo Stato ha ri-creato le condizioni di illegalità internazionale della sua presenza per negazione dei diritti umani , cosa che ha giustificato anche i passi successivi dell’Autogoverno. in 2002 Veneto national elections were held, that is, the first elections of the national parliament of the Venetian people in Italy (from Bergamo to Udine) which was voted on, like all national parliaments, only by the citizens of that nation, ossia dagli iscritti all’anagrafe. Le elezioni furono pubblicizzate anche da alcuni media italia, realizzando così quella notifica pubblica necessaria per dare legittimità giuridica e valenza anche politica nazionale veneta all’elezione del nuovo parlamento: with the publication of newspaper articles and television reports, including the TGR Veneto, Anyone who had the legal right to vote by declaring themselves in the Venetian national registry office was notified of the election. In ogni caso era tutto pubblicato nel giornale delle leggi venete, il sito ufficiale online.
With the constitution and electoral legitimation of the Self-Government of the Veneto People we were faced with the substantial modification of the territory of the State (but then again, not of the Republic) therefore the elections were duly denounced by the judiciary itself and the complaint originating from Bergamo was sent for territorial jurisdiction to Padua where the headquarters of the Self-Government was located. The crime charged was “attack on the State Constitution”, reato da ergastolo che mai prima era stato imputato ad un gruppo di indipendentisti, pur essendo noi del tutto privi di un qualche armamento.
As is known, the judiciary has a constitutional obligation to prosecute crimes, but given that what we had done was the exercise of civil and political rights provided by law, after two years the GIP, Bruno Cherchi, then Italian prosecutor of Venice and Vicenza, he had to recognize that it was all legal and therefore in 2004 chiese l’archiviazione che avvenne. Even in the absence of a sentence, this dismissal demonstrated the perfect legality of the constitution and exercise of the Self-Government of the Veneto People, delle elezioni venete, Why, ripetiamo, la magistratura ha l’obbligo di perseguire i reati contro lo Stato.
La repressione dello Stato Italiano occupante però si era nel frattempo fatta sentire diversamente, in 2002 the Carabinieri beat up Loris Palmerini and Massimo Lando and reported them as if they had attacked them. However, the beating took place in the presence of numerous witnesses, so in this case too no trial took place because they were innocent..
The combined provisions of Article 2.L.n340 /1971 con la L.n.881/1977 ha permesso la legale autodeterminazione di Istituzioni di Autogoverno del Popolo Veneto in conformità al diritto interno italiano ed internazionale ratificato, but in 2005-2006 I found out (L.Palmerini) the illegality of the annexation of 1866 which in reality concerned the entire Kingdom of Lombardy-Veneto and also the nullity of the Monarchy-Republic Referendum of 1946.
Since in 2006 una proposta italiana all’ONU voleva far dichiarare avvenute tutte le autodeterminazioni di popolo della Terra, and in light of the total illegality of the Italian Republic, the Institutions of Self-Government of the Veneto People in 2006 they also declared the Succession to the Kingdom of Lombardy-Veneto on the date of 1859 e la violazione del Trattato di Vienna 3 October 1866 che prevedeva il voto dell’intero Regno come da territorio amministrativo, ossia comprensivo della Lombardia. It is necessary to remember that Lombardy-Veneto was born in 1816 as the unification of the Ducato of Milan and Mantua to the Duchy of Veneto, or otherwise said, the Republic of Venice, invaded and subdued by Napoleon in 1797, and then ceded to the Habsburgs (as international law permitted at the time), in 1816 gli vennero accorpati i Ducati di Milano e di Mantova (which came to an end) mentre lo Stato Veneto continuava la giurisdizione sotto il nome di Lombardo-Veneto ma sempre con Venezia capitale politica e giuridica dell’intero territorio.
We are aware of and respectful of the human rights of the individual national and linguistic communities of Lombardy-Veneto, so in 2012 abbiamo riformato il Lombardo-Veneto per ripristinare le antiche amministrazioni dei popoli dell’Insubria e di Mantova prevedendo pure il loro diritto di ritornare all’autogoverno internazionale quando però si sarà tornati tutti sovrani come Lombardo-Veneto, prima non è posssibile.
Then the Veneto National Parliament (called the Assembly of Members) www.statoveneto.net agisce attualmente in supplenza anche per il parlamento federale del Lombardo-Veneto, and so for the institutions of justice.
But thanks to Palmerini's studies in 2006 the request to ascertain Italy's non-sovereignty over the territory was presented to the Ordinary Judge of Venice, It is in the 2008 the sentence declared the “ABSOLUTE FAILURE OF JURISDICTION” on the issue, che non significa che è stata riconosciuta la sovranità come hanno sostenuto alcuni fraudolenti cloni delle istituzioni, ma invece che nessun Giudice italiano può occuparsi della questione perché demandata al giudice internazionale.
in 2008 we then presented an appeal to the Council of Europe to obtain recognition of our right to have a natural judge from Veneto and the nature of “puppet government” of Italian administrations. In front of 25 ricorrenti ciascuno per suo conto stranamente il Consiglio d’Europa riconobbe come capofila e rappresentante unico Daniele Quaglia di S.Vendemiano, il quale fu votato anche a fare il capo del Governo in sostituzione di Luciano Franceschi. Unfortunately, while awaiting trial, Daniele Quaglia had the classic power intoxication that comes from those who find themselves in roles of power and responsibility without being prepared or capable of it. ( or he did it on purpose , non i sa ad oggi), e così questi insieme col ministro dell’interno da lui scelto Sergio Bortotto (ex poliziotto) e all’amico di questo, Galina, Capo della polizia di Cornuda, cominciarono a parlare di armi e armamenti, e senza averne autorizzazione e senza una legge fatta cominciarono ad attivarsi cercando divise, mostrine e chissà che altro. And so, mentre questi creavano le condizioni per obbligare l’intervento della magistratura contro una presunta organizzazione armata, Quaglia did not pursue the appeal to the Council of Europe, he dropped it. A quest’ora avremmo già i giudici veneti! Le inchieste invece videro il sequestro delle armi della polizia di Cornuda (ah, ah) ma poi fu riconosciuto tutto legale e si dimostrò che non era stato l’autogoverno a cercare la sedizione armata. Tuttavia è andata perso il percorso al Consiglio d’Europa, ed oggi i canali per arrivarci sono stati legalmente chiusi.
For these and other reasons, the Assembly dismissed the entire Quaglia government and several parliamentarians, ed allora questi mesi dopo essi tentarono pure l’usurpazione delle Istituzioni in una ben precisa strategia di conflitto dichiaratamente armata contro lo Stato Italiano. According to the newspapers, they even planned to kidnap Luca Zaia, uomo che serve fedelmente lo Stato Italiano e il globalismo. In vain we asked the media and journalists to clarify the fact that they did not belong to the Self-Government of the Veneto People, noi non li vedevamo da mesi, they were legally clones like others, and now we don't center, but nothing was achieved.
However, the appeal to the Council of Europe almost certainly gave way to the Italian cancellation of the annexation of 1866, act required by law n.881/1977. Thus L.n.212 del 2010 canceled the annexation as of January 1st 2013, date by which Italy could cancel the cancellation of the annexation, that is, reinstate the law, but obviously he could not do it under international law and in any case the annexation would still have remained illegal as it has always been.
Even today in 2022 we of the Self-government of the Venetian people have nothing to do with the various movements that speak of armed liberation war or liberation movements or committees in a state of war, and me, Loris Palmerini, Instead, I have always insisted that all peaceful and legal ways be tried to return to sovereignty, and so we are still doing .
For international law, the non-recognition of the self-determination of 1999 it is a crime against a people. Even if made by people of the same people.
Since sovereignty was legally acquired in 1999, all alleged other possible self-determinations of the Venetian people which occurred after that of 1999 they are illegal internationally because of what international law says.
Put another way, those who claim the representation of the Venetian people outside the institutions of self-government, they commit an international crime and also a crime of subversion under the penal code of self-government, and one day they will answer for it if they are not pardoned.
But it must be highlighted that even under Italian law the self-determination of the Venetian people has no longer been legal since 2012 and therefore constitute a life imprisonment crime of attack on the Constitution.
It is certainly not a coincidence, in fact that with the Statutory regional law n. 1 of the 17 April 2012 The point is that all these movements each claim to be legitimized to act in the name and on behalf of the entire Veneto population the previous state and constitutional law n. 340 of the 1971 it was replaced with a regional law, because while the previous Statute approved with L. n. 340 of the 1971 it was a law issued by the Italian parliament in double reading and therefore having the value of constitutional law, the statute of 2012 it is a law of regional origin / devoid of international authority and therefore does not legitimize acts of international importance . We are therefore talking about the hierarchy of sources and those who follow groups like CLNV or MLNV or Venetkens would do well to consult a lawyer because simple participation in the association constitutes a crime for Italy.
It should be noted that only after the change of laws of the 2012 they saw each other “emulate” or self-determination clones of 1999, which are therefore all illegal and criminally punishable by the Italian State, but also from the Veneto and Lombardy-Veneto states.
In summary and repeated: in short, any self-determination is no longer possible and no longer legal since 2012 because the Veneto regional law n.1 of 2012 it was a double reading issued by parliament and therefore having the value of constitutional law , it was a double reading issued by parliament and therefore having the value of constitutional law, it was a double reading issued by parliament and therefore having the value of constitutional law.
it was a double reading issued by parliament and therefore having the value of constitutional law, while "the self-government of the Venetian people" referred to in Article 2 of Law No. 340/1971 allowed and implied self-determination based on Law No. 881/1977, "the self-government of the Venetian people" referred to in art.2 L.r.n.1/2012 implies only regional autonomy as provided for by the Constitution and therefore within the limits of this, so in reality practically no de facto autonomy and no international autonomy. to try again, in the new states it is stated that the Veneto People are part of the Region, which is internationally ridiculous and illegal because we exist like Lombardy-Veneto invaded and occupied by a state that doesn't even know for sure whether it is a republic or a monarchy.
If the laws that make any self-determination of the Venetian people illegal from 2012 make self-determined institutions uniquely and exclusively valid in the 1999, however, there is the fact that currently none of the competent international bodies have recognized any Venetian authority, and it must be highlighted that those that are told by the movements that say they have been recognized by the UN are lies, and this alone should make the reader understand the stuff or nature of which they are made and that it is better to avoid them completely.
MLNV , CLNV 1 E 2 (3?) o Venetkens (spin-off CLNV2) they declare themselves "Authority representing a people" but they are not, they say they turned to the UN and were recognized by them, but as proof they show only one application filing stamp. In short, they pass off a postmark as an acknowledgment, In short, they pass off a postmark as an acknowledgment.
Furthermore, some have fallen for the hoax of individual self-determination and have thus brought many people into economic and legal trouble.. Have someone introduce you who has successfully not paid their car tax for over 6 years and you will see that they will not present you with anyone or false papers, because i passed 5 years everything comes to pay.
Even from these lies we understand the smallness of these movements .
Upon closer inspection, however, we notice movements that are good at deceiving people and defrauding money
There are other movements that declare sovereignty over the Veneto territory, but upon closer inspection they all lack the legal basis to claim such sovereignty in the International Court of Justice and in the world, in particular those that refer to the Venetian Republic, because in the 1797 there was only the right of the strongest, and even without a resolution from the Maggior Consiglio the Republic of Venice was unfortunately conquered by the Napoleonic hordes, which fortunately has not terminated the jurisdiction, then renamed “Lombardo-Veneto” in 1816 .
Furthermore, note that there never existed “Venetian Republic” but always and only there “Republic of Venice”.
Therefore the Lombardo-Veneto and the Veneto people are sovereign and legally independent, but militarily illegally occupied by Italy, and their sovereignty is in the hands of the institutions of the Veneto people established in 1999, only in these, and they will remain there until a referendum can be held in full self-government as required by the Treaty of Vienna of 3 October 1866. Everything else is rubbish.
In the meantime I trust that these movements will be destroyed by their own troubles, as some convictions have already demonstrated. return sovereigns, but only when the Venetian people and the citizens of Lombardy-Veneto have clarified and understood what their true institutions are. In the meantime they will remain de facto governed by the Italians or some other occupier.
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