{"id":19,"date":"2007-01-18T02:30:01","date_gmt":"2007-01-17T23:30:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.palmerini.net\/blog\/?p=19"},"modified":"2007-01-23T16:52:21","modified_gmt":"2007-01-23T15:52:21","slug":"veneto-e-talian-xe-la-stesa-lengua","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/veneto-e-talian-xe-la-stesa-lengua\/","title":{"rendered":"Veneto e Talian xe \u0142a stesa \u0142engua"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Go scrito ai manutentori de l&#8217; Etnologue, el cata\u0142ogo de\u0142e lengue del mondo richiesta a\u0142a Republica Italiana de riconosare \u0142a \u0142engua veneta  ( varda http:\/\/www.repubblica.org\/rinassimento\/let9e05a.html ).<\/p>\n<p>I dati che i ga xe parte, inte&#8217;l senso che i xe na parte, parch\u00e9 no i conta i veneto-foni del Braxi\u0142e, e de parte parch\u00e9 i ga scrito che i parlanti veneto i capise anca l&#8217; Italiano.<\/p>\n<p>Sto ultimo fato no xe vero, come dimostr\u00e0 dai tanti croati che parla Veneto (che i \u0142o ciama &#8220;Talian&#8221; ) ma no i mastega el Italiano . Stesa roba in Braxi\u0142e, dove i capise el Braxi\u0142ian ma no el Italiano.<\/p>\n<p>I me ga risposto che i me ringrasia, che i metar\u00e0 a posto i dati, ma so\u0142o nel 2009 cuando che i far\u00e0 i novi dati (!).<\/p>\n<p>Pa sto motivo, xe inportante che in sto tenpo, noaltri femo sentir de esarghe, anca contandose con na anagrafe dei parlanti veneto, che dimanda el riconosimento.<\/p>\n<p>Eco parch\u00e9 BIXOGNA che i parlanti veneto i fasa petision a sto sito<br \/>\n                  http:\/\/www.autogoverno.net\/lengua<br \/>\ne che i segna\u0142a sto sito a tuti cue\u0142i che i conose. <\/p>\n<p>Xe xa 600 \u0142e persone che ga firm\u00e0, da\u0142a Venetia (Histria e Dalmatia conprese) ma anca da Braxi\u0142.<\/p>\n<p>Eco \u0142a letara, e drio \u0142a risposta, tuto in inglexa.<br \/>\n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br \/>\nTo  iso639-3@XXXXX-XXXX<br \/>\nSubject Data about Venetian (code vec )<br \/>\nHi, About Venetian, code vec, I urge You to consider that in Histria (Croatia and Slovenia), they talk veneto, but they refer with the ancient word of &#8220;Talian&#8221;.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m native speaker of Venetian , and I assure that Talian is exactly veneto with a 100% full reciprocal understanding.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, due to emigration of around 4 milion persono from Venetia to Brazil in late XIX century,  actually in Rio Grande do Sul, a State of Brazil, 2 milion person that Talian , and literature is full intelligible  each other.<br \/>\nAs in Histria, Brasilian of Rio Grande call &#8220;talian&#8221; the Venetian language.<br \/>\nIn Rio Grande do Sul  the talian&#8217;s cultural activities and the use of Venetian is  stronger than in Italy, and they are near to legal recognition of the language by the Brasil republic.<br \/>\nI readed some text from authors there, like Lutazzi, and they talk 100% Veneto fully understable by venetian readers.<br \/>\nPlease see http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Talian or  http:\/\/open-encyclopedia.com\/Talian<br \/>\nBut, this people do not understand Italian as difficults at Croatian from Histria (that are closer)<br \/>\nBy consequence it&#8217;s not true that &#8220;Speakers also use Italian&#8221; as stated in Ethologue http:\/\/www.ethnologue.com\/show_language.asp?code=vec<br \/>\nPlease, verify my affirmation and update data .<br \/>\nKind Regards Loris Palmerini +39 347 14 16 187<br \/>\n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RISPOSTA<br \/>\nFrom Editor_Ethnologue@xxxxxxx.xxxx<br \/>\nTo: l.palmerini@repXXXXica.XXX<br \/>\nSubject: Fw: Data about Venetian (code vec )<br \/>\nLoris, Thank you for these comments.<br \/>\nThey are very helpful.  Updates will appear in the 16th edition, at which time the website will also be updated&#8211;probably early 2009. Best regards,<br \/>\nEthnologue Staff<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Go scrito ai manutentori de l&#8217; Etnologue, el cata\u0142ogo de\u0142e lengue del mondo richiesta a\u0142a Republica Italiana de riconosare \u0142a \u0142engua veneta ( varda http:\/\/www.repubblica.org\/rinassimento\/let9e05a.html ). I dati che i ga xe parte, inte&#8217;l senso che i xe na parte, parch\u00e9 no i conta i veneto-foni del Braxi\u0142e, e de parte parch\u00e9 i ga scrito [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":292,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-19","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cultura","has-post-title","has-post-date","has-post-category","has-post-tag","has-post-comment","has-post-author",""],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"builder_content":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/292"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=19"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=19"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=19"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/palmerini.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=19"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}